Ryan Wilson: Comparing Marc-Andre Fleury's Red Hot Start To Year's Past Comparing Marc-Andre Fleury's Red Hot Start To Year's Past

Scuderi 2nd on D in points (3) and +5 rating.

The "trade Crosby" coversation has started. Would you do this?

http://www.hockeyfeed.com...gins-about-sidney-crosby/

If things with Matt Murray continue to go the way they are Fleury will be tradable in 2-3 years. As a huge flower fan I don't like this. But if Murray is better than flower I am very excited for what he can do. Does flower have a NTC? I would imagine he has one considering how good he has been.

The "trade Crosby" coversation has started. Would you do this?

http://www.hockeyfeed.com...gins-about-sidney-crosby/
- joescullz

Not going to happen. Sid would need to decide to be traded and I find that unlikely. Also he would only want to go to a contending team, I can't think of a single contending team that could take his cap hit.

I've said for a while I'd love the soon to come expansion team to get a star like Stamkos to boost hem from the beginning. But no star would ever want to be on that bad of a team.

Once Quebec gets a team... I can see them taking Fleury in the expansion draft..not sure if the pens would protect him either.. Considering they have Murray and Jarry in the ahl... And they would get cap relief..

Once Quebec gets a team... I can see them taking Fleury in the expansion draft..not sure if the pens would protect him either.. Considering they have Murray and Jarry in the ahl... And they would get cap relief..
- Kunit

If the pens plan not to protect him they would probably take a trade for him before the draft so they get something for him. At least if the GM they have is worth a poop.

Alright RW haters. Here's you Fleury appreciation blog.

Seriously though, MAF should be the front runner for Vezina right now. Guy has played out of his mind to keep a team still figuring it out together. Hopefully by the time MAF comes back down to earth we'll be playing much better than we have been.

I actually think a lightbulb has gone off for fleury and the mental side of his game has improved along with positioning.

Current stats are probably too good, but I do think Fleury will have a career year this year.

Anyone talking about Murray being better than Fleury right now is an idiot. Fleury has performed in the first 10 games at a historically good level. He can't keep this up and a prospect to perform at Fleury's pace would be a sure thing HOF.

Any contender would love to take Crosby at his $8.7 cap hit. The issue wouldn't be his contract, but for those contenders to figure out how to find the cap space. $8.7 is a fairly reasonable cap hit for a generational talent (assuming Crosby recovers from his bad start). Stamkos, Kane, Toews are all looking at 10+. McDavid could break 10+ when his ELC is finished.

If you want to win cups trading Crosby makes a ton of sense. He likely is past his peak but it would depend on the return. We would need some very good assets to make it worthwhile.

I think Crosby can perform at a level that easily justifies a $8.7 cap hit as the cap continues to rise. He may no longer be the best in the NHL at that point, but his cap hit will be 3-5 million below the largest cap hits in the league.

To answer your question. Sure, I would trade Crosby, just like anyone else, for the right price.

crosby is still best but it is obvious he is starting to decline but this "slump" he has now is not something that is because of his decline. vorachek is having a bad year too so far. crosby can still be a art ross contender for 2 years more maybe 3 but after that well...

Any of you guys know someone who has or have personally participated in the Mario Lemieux camp?

I had someone asking when they send out actual info regarding where you are on the waiting list.

Pens for sale = Sid NOT for sale

Toronto? They have nothing this teams wants or needs. How if that a viable option to trade him there?

http://www.cbssports.com/...hl/eye-on-hockey/25361196

Puts crosby's and the pens slow start into perspective. It's not just us struggling for points and goals. It's a product of this awful NHL.

Sid doesn't need to be a top 5 player for the Penguins to be good. At his cap hit which should be very reasonable if cap keeps climbing then he needs to be a top 20 player and the team around him can be improved with more cap space.

Toronto? They have nothing this teams wants or needs. How if that a viable option to trade him there?
- Oneonta Penguin

It would start with Van Riemsdyk and Morgan Rielly, and go from there. Probably Marner or Nylander as well.

They have James Reimer!! LOL

Let me preface this comment with this, the Sid Crosby trade link is the furthest thing from a creditable website, nor do I believe Sid is getting dealt. But in response to your post Oneota Pen about Toronto having nothing we'd want... I'd think they could actually put a decent package together as long as we were out of "win now" mode. I'd think a Crosby for there 1st (assuming they are still a shoe in for a top 3 pick), Morgan Reilly, and Nylander would be a decent deal assuming some other spare parts are added such as a Scuderi dump or something.

Once again, not advocating for the trade... Just saying I think Toronto could put together an interesting package and is one of the few teams with the cap space to pull it off.

It would start with Van Riemsdyk and Morgan Rielly, and go from there. Probably Marner or Nylander as well.
- cap1681

I was going to add JVR to my package but I'd assume if the Leafs are trading for Crosby they'd be wanting to keep JVR, it'd be Crosby for high end picks and prospects I'd think.

I was going to add JVR to my package but I'd assume if the Leafs are trading for Crosby they'd be wanting to keep JVR, it'd be Crosby for high end picks and prospects I'd think.
- Willaged

That wouldn't work for the Penguins. They would need roster players in return. If you are going to trade Crosby for picks and prospects, you might as well trade Malkin and Kessel as well, because it's saying that you don't care about the present.

That wouldn't work for the Penguins. They would need roster players in return. If you are going to trade Crosby for picks and prospects, you might as well trade Malkin and Kessel as well, because it's saying that you don't care about the present.
- cap1681

The whole discussion is useless because Toronto's not making a trade for Crosby anyways, even with the "best in the world" moniker. Toronto appears to finally be on the right track building a team. Marner, Nylander, Kapenan, Reilly, plus a top 3 this year and the pens 1st rounder... 3-5 years from now they'll have a hell of a team. Trading for Crosby now, weather it's a package of youth, or JVR AND REILLY coming back only returns to them mediocry, as after Crosby there would be no one else. As I prefaced my post.. Trade is not gonna happen... But if I were going to make one I'd take the pack of futures over JVR 10 times out of 10.

Crosby will break this slump and very soon. How many times has Ovie started the season slow and everyone said he was on the decline and it's time to trade him and blah blah blah. Ovie is 2 years older too. Crosby is the best conditioned player in the league he's not having this massive decline. He's actually become much more dedicated to the defensive side of the game which will actually make him even more valuable. The effort has been there he just needs some bounces.

Oh god people are discussing a Crosby trade. Nothing to see here.

Oh god people are discussing a Crosby trade. Nothing to see here.
- Conse

The funny thing is that it makes more sense than a Malkin trade and yet the loons have no issue talking about trading Geno. Neither make sense.